Crabs In A Bucket

Oct 30th, 2008 | By Qualified Engineer | Category: Commentary

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I’ve only been observing the engineering profession for a few years, but from what I have seen, there is a clear issue of low compensation that must be tackled. When a high school student takes on the challenge to pursue a degree in engineering and then goes on to seek professional licensure, he or she embarks upon a path of academic and professional commitment as critical and as risky as a medical doctor. I believe doctors are highly paid because they make life or death decisions.  Engineers often face this same level of risk and often times it is multiplied by hundreds or even thousands.

However, when you look at the absurd starting salaries and the snail’s pace of raises, it’s no wonder engineers seek alternate routes to secure their financial futures. They go back to school to get into the business sector or opt for Construction Management. The drain on talent eventually leads to a slow decline in engineering resources which leaves voids in specialty fields which aren’t being filled as the old guard heads into retirement.

What is the root of the problem? The Crab in the Bucket Syndrome. This syndrome is described as follows, “situations where one person is trying to better themself and others in the community attempt to pull them back down.”

In context this applies to the vicious under cutting of engineering fees and the negative slander engineering firms use to win bids for design or inspection services.

The engineering profession is in crisis.  Who can engineers turn to? Lawyers. There are tons of applicable negative cliches which can be applied to lawyers. But as far as competition amongst law firms, the engineering industry could learn a lot.

Lawyers have found a way to maintain a certain minimum rate from which you can’t escape. Engineers on the other hand, don’t seem to be able to set any kind of floor. Of course when selecting a skilled attorney there are variations in price, however, often it is commensurate with the level of service. With engineering, the low ball tactics lead to quality engineering firms having to prostitute themselves to fill their billable hours.

One possible solution could be for engineers to do a better collective effort of marketing the prestige of the industry, marketing the complicated skill sets the professionals must have to perform their tasks and value they provide to the overall public good. Engineering must be deemed to be an elite profession.

Another path to establishing better rates is to develop stronger associations. Associations such as the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) and other at the state level such as Florida Engineering Society (FLENG) need to organize the engineers in a show of force to mandate that accredited firms don’t undermine the profession. Once owner recognize that they aren’t able to steal these skilled services for bargain basement prices, the compensation will improve.

This will have the overall benefit of encouraging young scientific minds to return to the profession and replenish the dwindling talent pool.

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  1. This is a very interesting post. Thank you for the information QE!

  2. Ineresting thought. I believe the reason that lawyers have been able to set a floor in their rates is they are required by law to pass the bar. In many, many cases, engineers are not required to be licensed, so pretty much anyone can practice “engineering.” The first step in solving the issue of engineering salaries is to get the state governements to actually enforce their engineering licensure laws, and to convince the legislatures to strenghten these laws. This is ostensibly one of the goals of the National Society of Professional Engineers, but NSPE seems to spend more time protecting engineering firms rather than trying to help the profession as a whole. Additionally, the power of NSPE is limited by its number of members, but this becomes a chicken-and-egg question. How will NSPE grow membership without more PEs, but why would people want to become PEs when they don’t need to for their jobs? But how do they force stronger licensure laws without more PEs, etc.

    Also, U.S. law is unique and as such is difficult to outsource to other countries. Similarly, it is difficult to practice medicine remotely. But much of engineering can be performed anywhere. So even with stricter and better-enfored licensure laws, there would be nothing stopping business from shipping their engineering to other countries and circumventing the licensing laws.

    It’s a difficult question.

  3. interesting concept

  4. This simply isn’t true anymore. Many fully licensed attorneys are now working for free just for the privilege of having something to put on their resumes.

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