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	<title>Comments on: Crabs In A Bucket</title>
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	<description>Engineering certifications, designations, exams, education, career development and licensure</description>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
		<link>http://www.qualifiedengineer.com/2008/10/crabs-in-a-bucket/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This simply isn&#039;t true anymore.  Many fully licensed attorneys are now working for free just for the privilege of having something to put on their resumes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This simply isn&#8217;t true anymore.  Many fully licensed attorneys are now working for free just for the privilege of having something to put on their resumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Aly</title>
		<link>http://www.qualifiedengineer.com/2008/10/crabs-in-a-bucket/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Aly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting concept</description>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.qualifiedengineer.com/2008/10/crabs-in-a-bucket/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ineresting thought.  I believe the reason that lawyers have been able to set a floor in their rates is they are required by law to pass the bar.  In many, many cases, engineers are not required to be licensed, so pretty much anyone can practice &quot;engineering.&quot;  The first step in solving the issue of engineering salaries is to get the state governements to actually enforce their engineering licensure laws, and to convince the legislatures to strenghten these laws.  This is ostensibly one of the goals of the National Society of Professional Engineers, but NSPE seems to spend more time protecting engineering firms rather than trying to help the profession as a whole.  Additionally, the power of NSPE is limited by its number of members, but this becomes a chicken-and-egg question.  How will NSPE grow membership without more PEs, but why would people want to become PEs when they don&#039;t need to for their jobs?  But how do they force stronger licensure laws without more PEs, etc.

Also, U.S. law is unique and as such is difficult to outsource to other countries.  Similarly, it is difficult to practice medicine remotely.  But much of engineering can be performed anywhere.  So even with stricter and better-enfored licensure laws, there would be nothing stopping business from shipping their engineering to other countries and circumventing the licensing laws.  

It&#039;s a difficult question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ineresting thought.  I believe the reason that lawyers have been able to set a floor in their rates is they are required by law to pass the bar.  In many, many cases, engineers are not required to be licensed, so pretty much anyone can practice &#8220;engineering.&#8221;  The first step in solving the issue of engineering salaries is to get the state governements to actually enforce their engineering licensure laws, and to convince the legislatures to strenghten these laws.  This is ostensibly one of the goals of the National Society of Professional Engineers, but NSPE seems to spend more time protecting engineering firms rather than trying to help the profession as a whole.  Additionally, the power of NSPE is limited by its number of members, but this becomes a chicken-and-egg question.  How will NSPE grow membership without more PEs, but why would people want to become PEs when they don&#8217;t need to for their jobs?  But how do they force stronger licensure laws without more PEs, etc.</p>
<p>Also, U.S. law is unique and as such is difficult to outsource to other countries.  Similarly, it is difficult to practice medicine remotely.  But much of engineering can be performed anywhere.  So even with stricter and better-enfored licensure laws, there would be nothing stopping business from shipping their engineering to other countries and circumventing the licensing laws.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a difficult question.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Sti</title>
		<link>http://www.qualifiedengineer.com/2008/10/crabs-in-a-bucket/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Sti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting post. Thank you for the information QE!</description>
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